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We'll start off pretty easily.
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Did you just wanna tell us a little bit about yourself
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and your photography journey?
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Yeah, sure. So,
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Up until recently I've been more of a,
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um,
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more of a hobby than a profession.
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But I'm slowly changing that into a full-time career.
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So, I've always been into photography.
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Been shooting for, since my teens.
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I'm 41 now.
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So, I've really been getting stuck into it.
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Pretty much shooting every day
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for the last three or four years.
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And, you know, I'm right into surf photography
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and environmental portraits.
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But, yeah, mostly photograph anything.
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But they're my two main passions in photography, I suppose.
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And you're in Newcastle, are you?
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You are in Newcastle based?
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Yeah, Yeah, yeah.
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Yes.
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So, you're shooting what's around you as well?
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Yeah, yeah, that's wherever work has been
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pretty spectacular.
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You know coastline in Newcastle,
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and surfing's a huge part of
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our kind of lifestyle,
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so, yeah.
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And you are one of the lucky finalists
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that actually made it down to the gallery
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and we got to meet you and your lovely wife
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on the opening weekend.
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What was it like coming in and seeing your work on there?
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Oh, super exciting.
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It was so,
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firstly,
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to be picked, like,
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didn't think I had any chance.
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And then we got lucky with the COVID situation,
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we were able to get down to Canberra
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and it was super exciting to see
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that hung in the gallery.
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And then seeing people, you know, like it
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and talk about it.
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And yeah, that was fantastic.
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Well, you had a nice.
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What I mean, we can go into that but
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tell us a little bit about your work,
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that is in Living Memory called Task at Hand.
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Yep.
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Just behind me.
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(both laughing)
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So that was shot at Merewether Ocean Baths.
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So that was in July last year
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and,
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we had a major east coast low,
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so a huge big weather system hitting the coast
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and the surf was absolutely enormous.
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Pretty wild sort of condition.
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So we'd been in the bridge most of the day,
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and,
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you know,
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while the waves were spectacular,
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there was nothing really
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get a sense of scale
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or,
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really interesting.
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We sort of walked into Burwood beach,
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which is the next beach around.
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And got sort of stuck in there,
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and we couldn't get back to Merewether
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where I had my bike parked.
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Later checked on the bike.
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It had grind and wind and stuff.
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(Tara James laughing)
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But so I had to walk up this big hill
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and then you come down,
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through the residential area of Merewether
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and there was a guy
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who had amazing, on his front deck,
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and his fishing gear.
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And he was heading down towards the beach.
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I though well I have all this gear.
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So I am going.
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So followed him down.
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And he went in front of the pump house
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and I though uh, you know,
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what a great opportunity.
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And fortunately, because of the weather,
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I was the only person around
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and the photographer anyway.
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So I just started firing of some shots
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and I was sort of spent 15 minutes in front of him.
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And I took the shoot that we can see there.
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And I was looking through the lens of the camera
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and thought geez it is wide
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I got to be close.
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We got absolutely swamped by the wave
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it came up to the top.
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It caught me absolutely drenched.
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The Cannon 5D mark 4
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and a 7,200 lens held up.
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So what the camera often kept going
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and yeah, so we were pretty lucky.
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It's an amazing part.
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I mean, there's, there's things
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I want to talk about with you,
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but for me like seeing that one, that was.
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Yeah, it reminded me of like a, still from the movie.
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I don't know if he'd seen the movie, The Lighthouse?
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Which is very dark movie
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Oh yeah! Yeah.
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And like extremely dark up close like Jarin Blaschke.
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It reminded me of, of a still from that with Logan Hawkes.
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Very cinematic.
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So I,
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so really enjoy black and white,
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particularly that type of setting.
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So I think it really makes sense the sort of drama
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and that emotive feeling and more photographic heroes,
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David Yarrow,
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who does so a lot of wildlife photography,
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but it's all of the stage sort of stuff with models
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and animals.
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And he does stuff as good as,
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described one with a wolf,
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walking down a bar with them all the bar staff around.
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And so I take inspiration from him with sort of the times
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and the black and whites
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and try to sort of replicate,
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well, not replicate,
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but take inspiration from his style.
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Beautiful.
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So that was always gonna be a black.
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When I was taking a them, this is gonna be black and white.
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Very dramatic.
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(Jarrod murmurs indistinct)
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Well,
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you had an interesting thing
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when you came to the opening weekend,
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which wasn't really an opening,
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but we've had the panel
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with Mike Bowers and Christine Morgan
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discussing the work,
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which was really great thing.
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But I think you also got told that Mike Bowers
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had sort of paused and admired your work
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and had a few lovely things to say about the work.
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With a big smile on his face.
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Yeah, yeah, definitely a local man.
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He's obviously a very well regarded, respected,
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talented photographer.
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And by all reports, he, you know,
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He is not backward in coming forward.
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If he doesn't, you know, like something.
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So it was, yeah,
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it was great to get some feedback and very positive.
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And gave you a little shout out. Didn't he?
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Yeah. Gave a little shout.
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(indistinct murmur as they talk over each other)
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In the, in the talk.
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And it was very exciting.
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It was great.
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One of the cool things with your work,
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and I think with Joel Pratley's work, as well,
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the drought story is
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they challenge people's perceptions of what is a portrait.
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You can't really see your subjects face.
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Mm, Yeah.
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It's covered.
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He's immersed in the landscape.
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Do you have any thoughts on that?
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Yeah, so like my style is like a,
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like environmental portraits,
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like capturing people in their, you know,
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environment doing what they do.
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Either the fishermen or,
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you know,
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in Joel's case a farmer
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and I enjoy shooting on farms as well.
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My wife's family's in New Zealand apart from his sister
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and they're all farmers.
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Dairy farmers and sheep farmers.
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So, you know, a lot of it is like my work,
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and what Joel did,
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isn't necessarily a classical portrait,
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you know,
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where you're constrained on the subject's face
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or it's quite tight.
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So, you know, to capture them in their environment.
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So yeah.
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There is a little bit similarities with those works,
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but it's just
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almost man versus nature, you know, vibes
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at the, you know, at the hands of nature doing what it does.
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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Cause I was at Sun Studios
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when Joel was getting his print printed.
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That was Wednesday just went in to get mine done
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and Selena boarded out and stuck up in a warm up.
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That's good.
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And we got introduced and it's like,
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you two are competing against each other.
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Joel's for sure in.
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I went for sure that I wasn't the only one that
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Yeah (laughing)
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was in the exhibition.
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vastly different landscapes,
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but similar in,
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in what's the word concept, nature?
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All of those things.
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So you sort of starting to make photography,
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your career now we're going down that path.
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So I think being part of Living Memory
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and being part of that sort
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of In Triple P Photographic family now mean
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for your photographic career?
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Oh, well it's been a huge boost.
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Like it's certainly getting recognition from other people.
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Like when you say though I'm currently been exhibited
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you know,
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hung in the National Portrait Gallery of Australia,
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you know.
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It's not a little back street gallery
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in suburban Newcastle,
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which I have been in those galleries
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and that's fantastic,
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but this is on a national stage
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and you know,
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it's with some magnificent other photographers.
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So I mean you're in exceptional exceptional,
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exceptional group.
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So yeah, that's really helped.
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when the National Portrait Gallery,
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re-posts your photo on Instagram or Facebook,
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that gets a lot of followers on Instagram, whatnot.
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just put more people in touch with more photography
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is really, helping a lot.
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Awesome.
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Its great for my confidence as well
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because a photographer you're always your harshest critic.
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Artists in general.
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Yeah, yeah. That's right.
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So to have that recognition, you think,
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well, yeah, you know,
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I am doing something right.
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Yeah, well done.
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There's a bit of ability there
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So another thing is, I guess,
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and you do a lot of outdoor shooting,
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so how has locked down
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and all the changes
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going on in the world affected your practise
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and the way you approach photography.
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Yeah. It's been tricky.
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I do a lot of surf photography.
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So that's been,
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hasn't really changed too much,
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fortunately,
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reasonably close to the beach.
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So I've been going in most days
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and still plenty of guys here surfing
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so and girls.
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So that's been good,
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but other stuff I've had other projects and, you know,
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say a family shoots, portraits, et cetera,
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that we haven't been able to do.
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So just thinking differently outside of the square
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and you know,
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shooting along the backyard there.
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When running in the neighbourhood,
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turned my camera on when walking the dog
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and you come up with something.
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You see different things.
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I mean in photography,
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you're always looking for,
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when you say the world would be differently
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than, you know,
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a non photographer.
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So you're always looking for different things to photograph,
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but it has been tricky with not being able to go into
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people's homes or businesses
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or get groups
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or go into a studio
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or anything like that.
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So yeah.
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But you know, fingers crossed and you said, well,
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we are coming out of lockdown
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Yeah.
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On Monday.
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Yeah. We'll yeah.
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Do you think you'll come back down again
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and visit the gallery.
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Oh, 100%. Yeah yeah.
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Hopefully we see more.
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Definitely.
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Gotta say one of the questions we often get asked
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about people that,
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you know,
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make it into the prize
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and be it from a people in the general public
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or aspiring photographer is this,
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the selected equipment you use.
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What's your equipment.
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Your go tos.
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You go to obviously waterproof.
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Yeah. Well,
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(both laugh)
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I can vouch for Cannons water sailing
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or weather sailing suit.
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Really is an outstanding suit.
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Well my main camera is a 5D Mark IV.
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You know, they are very resilient.
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Smashed them on rocks and you know,
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going into the puddles of the beach
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and the sand and wind and rain
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and all sorts of stuff.
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So, and I mean it hasn't missed a beat.
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And I use all L Series lenses
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apart from the 70 to 200.
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And I've got a two times converter as well,
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all my other lenses are prime.
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Some, I'm a prime guy.
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I think it takes the, it makes it easy.
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Cause you don't have to worry about zooming
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or getting the right focal length, you know.
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It's what it is and, you know,
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use your, use your legs, I suppose.
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So. Yeah.
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And I use a Cannon I as well.
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So I tend to carry that around, you know,
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that's great for straight photography
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or yeah,
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just having a round for impromptu portrait shoots
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or whatever.
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So yeah.
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So pretty much the 70-200
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and 2X Extender
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stays in the five day.
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And so there are 50 or an 85 on the Canon I.
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I feel upgrade to a five shortly.
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Canon if you are listening (Tara whispers)
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Yeah. That's right.
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(both chuckle)
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(Jarrod murmurs indistinctly under his breath)
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So do you have any tips to help or any yeah,
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for aspiring photographers out there,
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any tips from you?
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Yeah.
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Well I think like anything
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you get, well you should try to shoot enough.
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I think the more you shoot
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the better you gonna get.
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So shoot every day, if you can.
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Er, and look for something that's a little bit different.
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There's going to be a point of difference, I think,
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because there's no point,
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we can all take,
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everyone can take a decent photo I bet.
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If you probably seen it a hundred times,
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a thousand times before, well,
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you know,
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it's not really that much point.
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Also know your gear.
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Your camera,
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you should be able to use your camera with your shot.
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And yeah know what it's capable of.
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Oh, I tend to,
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push my gear
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to the limits
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and tend to shoot,
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you know,
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a bit extreme sort of, you know.
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I'm currently studying photography at Billy Butte,
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Billy blue college in Ultimo in Sydney.
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And my lectures sort of cringe
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when they hear
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or look at me in dismay with my settings,
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and high ISO
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and shutter speeds and stuff that uh,
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and I am like that works, you know.
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So don't be too influenced by what technically
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what other people tell you,
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but be influenced by what other people do.
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What they produce
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and just keep on experiment.
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Find what works for you.
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That's what I've done.
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I find it works for me
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and just keep on honing that and you know,
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have fun.
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If you don't enjoy it while it's no point doing it.
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Like I can photograph all day.
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Think photography.
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Talk photography.
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Read photography.
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Watch photography documentaries
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24/7,
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if I was allowed to drive my wife crazy.
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But yeah.
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So just immerse yourself in it
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and really love it.
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And you'll be surprised what you can,
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what you can produce.
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Awesome.
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Good advice.
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So we touched on this one a little bit before,
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but photographers or artists that inspire you
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or that you look up.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So an Australian guy from Bondi, Eugene Tan.
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So he's the founder
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of Aquabumps.
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Which is, he's got a magnificent gallery in Bondi.
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And he's got a,
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he's got about 40 odd thousand subscribers
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to which he sends out an email each day
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with these photos from Bondi.
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So he captures the sunrise
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and the action down in Bondi beach and in Bondi
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pretty much every day of the year.
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Or from when he's travelling elsewhere.
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And he photographs that.
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So he's absolutely brilliant.
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So I take my
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sort of surf beach photography inspiration from him.
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And then we touched on David Yarrow.
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Scottish photographer.
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Fine Art.
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Does a lot with wildlife models.
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Absolutely incredible like amazing work.
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Raises a hell of a lot of money for charities,
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particularly animal conservation.
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So he's brilliant.
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And another guy that I really enjoyed is Phil Penman.
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UK born, but a New York based.
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Street photographer.
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Really interesting,
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brilliant stuff.
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Sounds like he'd be a really fun guy to hang out with,
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I think.
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Perfect.
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Yeah.
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So, what about,
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do you remember the first photo you ever took?
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Oh.
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I remember the first photo that I took,
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that I thought it's pretty good,
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was actually in Melbourne down on the Yarra river.
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It was like a beautiful late afternoon.
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The light would have come in along the,
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through the trees onto the bank.
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And there was some boats
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and maybe a rowboat going down the Yarra.
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And it was just a quite a nice photo.
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Probably look at it now
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and it's it, how hum.
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But actually photo that's, you know, pretty good.
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And then actually a few people sort of commented
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and started buying a few prints off me.
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Probably worked at the time
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and it was probably 21 years ago,
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and then sort of been hooked ever since.
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And I'm slowly honing my craft plus post.
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Awesome.
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Do you remember taking any photos as a kid?
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Like getting, you know,
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like the old Canon family camera
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and headless family shots or?
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Yeah,
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I don't think we had any sort of fancy camera's
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or anything growing up.
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We had the little pocket point and shoot.
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(Tara James murmurs indistinctly)
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I can't remember being too sort of,
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it's probably wasn't until I was in my late teens,
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I suppose I really started getting into it.
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I'm not really sure how I got into it.
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I don't know.
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I think,
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maybe someone I knew,
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or a family friend,
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or someone sort of was into photography
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and sort of, yeah,
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just got a camera and started shooting and yeah.
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On it goes.
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Yeah.
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The path found you by the sound.
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Yeah.
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So what about dream subjects?
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If you could get anyone in the world in front of your camera
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and doing whatever you wanted.
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Who would you reckon it can be?
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Hmm. Jeez.
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That's a cool one.
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Well, in the surf photography,
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I love to have a session with Kelly Slider.
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That'd be pretty great.
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But, but hopefully it'll say this actually the,
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the not before or sorry,
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the day I found out I was going to be in the National,
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in the National Portrait Gallery,
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Living memory exhibition,
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I was actually in hospital.
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I was gonna have a major open heart surgery.
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Well, I had an open heart surgery the following day.
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Yeah, I remember.
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Yeah. So I wanted to photograph my surgeon,
522
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er Nicholson,
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and get a photo of him operating.
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So logistically might be a bit tough,
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but I reckon we can work something out.
526
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Yeah.
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So I think that'd be, yeah. I've got a few ideas, so yeah.
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And you are along the mend now?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I am good as gold now.
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I'm feeling great.
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Yeah.
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Awesome.
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Yeah.
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What about any shout outs or thank you.
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Do you have any shout outs you want to put out there?
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Well my wife first,
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for putting up with me
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and you know.
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And photographing them, but
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I like to thank,
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well actually shot a wedding a few years ago
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and that was a really big break,
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and I wanna thank,
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Nick and Lucy for letting me to shoot their wedding.
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That's really sort of kick things along.
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So I'd never shot a wedding before.
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Wasn't really,
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never thought I wanna shoot a wedding before.
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I would want to shoot a wedding.
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They asked me, I did it.
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It was on farm in New Zealand, dairy farm.
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And half an hour before the wedding panicking.
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And I was walking across the plain, like
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(Tara James laughs out loud)
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I can't do this.
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Well I did.
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And it turned out absolutely brilliant
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I had the time of my life. Absolutely loved it.
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So that was great.
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Also like to thank more everyone
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who's been a subject for me.
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All the surfers in Newcastle
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for putting on such a great show.
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Mickey here who's the fishermen there,
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for being, well, equally as mad as I am
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for being in that bad weather.
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I have always shot Canon.
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So big shout out at Canon.
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Their gear is, you know, absolutely outstanding.
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And obviously,
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all you guys at the National Portrait Gallery of Australia
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for such a unbelievable opportunity.
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I still can't believe that my photos are in the gallery
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and it's been incredible.
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Awesome.
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So do you have any, this is a last little bit.
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And it's gonna be photography or general life.
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Jared's parting words of wisdom.
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(both laughing)
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I was starting to think what you'd asked me.
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(Tara laughs)
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Well, I think you've got to find with, with, with anything,
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whether you want to be a photographer.
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Whether you want to be a carpenter
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or a doctor, whatever,
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you've got to find something that you can completely
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immerse yourself in and, and time stands still.
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There's no sense of time when you're doing that.
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When I go to the camera up to my eye,
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you know,
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I'm never bored.
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I never think of the time.
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I probably should think of the time sometimes,
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because I think when you finished photographing
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and think jeez, I was meant to be home.
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I'm running desperately late for work.
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So find something that you absolutely love doing
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and then really work at it.
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And don't be afraid,
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to
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put yourself
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outside your comfort zone, you know.
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Do some things that sometimes are a bit hard,
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cause yeah, you will, you know, good will come from that.
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So yeah, work hard.
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Enjoy it.
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That's my words of wisdom.