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<v Nathalie>Do you have any guesses</v>

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about like who would be in here?

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<v Carlos>Heath Ledger and Michelle Williams.</v>

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<v Nathalie>Heath Ledger and Michelle Williams?</v>

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<v Carlos>Yeah.</v>

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<v Nathalie>"Australian Love Stories."</v>

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<v Carlos>Starring Bryan Brown and his wife, nice.</v>

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<v Nathalie>Is that Bryan Brown?</v>

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<v Carlos>And I believe that's his wife.</v>

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<v ->But who is Bryan Brown?</v>

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<v ->Bryan Brown is the actor.</v>

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<v ->In what?</v>

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<v ->He's a legendary Australian actor.</v>

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He's from heaps of shit.

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Do you recognise these people?

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(laughing)

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<v ->This is Del and Kel and Arella.</v>

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"This painting celebrates the love I have

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for my two children and how my relationship with them

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has radically informed and indeed transformed

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my understanding of who I am."

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Aw.

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<v ->Ah, so that's that's nice, son, daughter, mother.</v>

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Stacked up.

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Right, so it doesn't have to be love, like romantic love,

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like Bryan Brown and the wife.

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(laughing)

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<v ->I really want to know her name now.</v>

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(laughing)

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Rachel Ward.

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<v ->Dude, Rachel Ward is so famous.</v>

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<v ->Really?</v>

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<v ->That's so embarrassing that I did not notice that was her.</v>

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<v ->I like this one a lot.</v>

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<v ->"How is it sometimes people come up to me and say,</v>

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'I'm an artist now and it's all your fault.'"

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(Nathalie laughs)

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<v ->Is that because he's forced into social commentary</v>

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because of the state he's in?

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Yeah, I really like that.

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<v ->Reminds me a bit of "Saw".</v>

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<v ->Of what?</v>

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<v ->You know "Saw"?</v>

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The horror movie?

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<v ->I haven't seen it, but yeah?</v>

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<v ->But you know the dude?</v>

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The puppeteer that like.

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<v ->No.</v>
<v ->No?</v>

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I'll show you.

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"Saw", puppeteer.

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<v ->Oh, true!</v>
<v ->Mm-hmm.</v>

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With the bow tie, the bow tie is the sell.

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<v ->Well it's like the shape of the face.</v>

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<v ->Yeah, it's like, if he was human,</v>

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if he was human, it would be, this dude.

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It's like, this is Gollum and that's Smeagol.

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Like before the...
<v ->I think it's beautiful.</v>

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Quite sad.

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Also kind of funny, you know?

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<v ->Mm-hmm.</v>

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Looks like he'd be a good comedian.

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<v Nathalie>I would have that in my house, I think.</v>

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<v Carlos>Yea.</v>

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<v ->"I used to think that I could never lose anyone</v>

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if I photographed them enough.

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In fact, my pictures show me how much I've lost."

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Oh, Nan Goldin, I love her.

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That's really sad.

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<v ->Yeah, it's depressing.</v>

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I don't know, it's not so much like,

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that's what you've lost.

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<v ->Really?</v>

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<v ->I think you even gotta look at it more like</v>

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how much you've gained, all these memories, of that person.

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<v ->That's a nice way.</v>

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I feel like a nostalgic person.

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Like I'll look at photos from my upbringing.

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->Like family or friends and I'll feel sad.</v>

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<v ->No I'm being a hypocrite, I'm just exactly the same.</v>

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<v ->That's a nice way of thinking about it.</v>

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That's like a better way.

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<v ->Like we should look at it more like that.</v>

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<v ->Like, look at all these rich experiences</v>

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that have made me who I am.

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->I feel like we idolise,</v>

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like when we look back on photos and paintings

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and stuff like that, we idolise the past.

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Like, ah, it was a better time,

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ah, it was a sort of magical time.

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<v ->When, if you'd probably go back into that time.</v>

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<v ->You wouldn't, yeah.</v>

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<v ->You wouldn't be feeling the way you feel about it</v>

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when you look at it in hindsight.

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->Okay.</v>

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You like this one?

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->Ah, that one's cool too.</v>

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->Wow, these are actually amazing.</v>

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->"After Jack."</v>

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<v ->"Jenny Sages met her husband Jack in 1954."</v>

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<v ->Oh no, this is Jenny and Jack.</v>

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<v ->"And it was love at first sight."</v>

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Do you believe in love at first sight?

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<v ->Uh, no, I don't.</v>

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(both laughing)

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<v ->I don't know man.</v>

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<v ->So, I disagree.</v>

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<v ->I think Jenny and Jack</v>

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have something different to say about that.

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<v ->"While she spent long hours in the studio,</v>

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Jack made dinner."

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<v ->I like that.</v>

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<v ->"And he always made the frames for her paintings.</v>

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The last frame he made

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was for the only portrait Jenny ever painted of Jack.

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An intimate personal work."

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This is a self portrait after Jack.

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How did she do that?

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"Anything else I would paint seemed trivial to me."

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That's incredible.

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<v ->Mm-hmm.</v>

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<v ->To paint yourself looking like that,</v>

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and feeling that, that's beautiful.

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<v ->Emotional baggage.</v>

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<v ->That's interesting that nothing else seemed</v>

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worth painting, but her own.

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<v ->Despair?</v>

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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I guess she's the closest thing she has.

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<v ->To him.</v>
<v ->To him.</v>

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<v ->Mm-hmm.</v>

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<v ->I like Jenny and Jack.</v>

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All right, were next?

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<v ->Big fans of Jenny and Jack.</v>

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Wow, this looks cool.

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->Where do you want to go?</v>

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I want to go to this photograph.

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I know these people.

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This is actors.

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Vincent and Asher Keddie.

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Asher Keddie's cool.

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<v ->Yeah, she's cool.</v>

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<v ->You need to watch "Love My Way".</v>

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She's so funny in "Love My Way".

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<v ->Is she?</v>

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<v ->Is this her husband?</v>

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<v ->Vincent Fantauzzo.</v>

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Italian?

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<v ->I like his pants.</v>

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<v ->Yeah, their snazzy.</v>

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Bob Hawke.

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Legend.

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Beer in hand.

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(chuckles)

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We saw the (indistinct) no one else.

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<v ->Right.</v>

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It's so mean, I feel like couples that,

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they start to look the same.

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Don't you think?

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<v ->Yeah, yeah.</v>

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<v Nathalie>There's like an energy that I'm like.</v>

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<v ->Man, even here is.</v>

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<v ->Yeah!</v>

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Why is that?

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<v ->It's like, dogs and their owners.</v>

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<v ->Is it just because they're like eating the same foods?</v>

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Sleeping the same hours?

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->Living the same life.</v>

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It's like they mould into one person.

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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Oh, look at this one, it's cute.

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<v ->See!</v>

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(both laughing)

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<v ->True!</v>

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<v ->Like, similar.</v>

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->"It was about four o'clock in the afternoon.</v>

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On November 29th, 1979, she took my breath away."

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What's all this love at first sight bullshit.

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<v ->Yeah, you're getting out worked here, a.</v>

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"At first site I thought Jimmy was handsome.

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Jane remembers mostly his eyes.

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A trap to his wit and humour, he made me laugh."

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I don't know if Jane likes his music.

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<v ->Do you like his music?</v>

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<v ->I would be lying if I told you I know what his music is.</v>

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<v ->Dude this is um, John Bell,</v>

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as in Bell Shakespeare.

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I'm just checking that I'm right?

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Yes, I am.
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Have you ever seen any Bell Shakespeare shows?

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<v ->No.</v>

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<v ->Oh they were great.</v>

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They're an Australian Shakespeare company,

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but he's amazing.

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These guys look the same.

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I just love how like feminine he looks.

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<v ->I thought that was a painting.</v>

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That's a crazy photo.

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<v ->See, when I see this, I don't worry about getting old.</v>

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You know?

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<v ->Wait, what do you mean?</v>

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<v ->Like I don't worry about getting wrinkles.</v>

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<v ->Because it's quite beautiful?</v>

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->That's really nice that.</v>

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<v ->How long were these guys together or are they?</v>

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So they're still together, 2020.

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<v ->Let's hope so.</v>

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<v ->So this was photographed last year.</v>

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"We fell in love just about straightaway".

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<v ->Love at first sight.</v>

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You've been proven wrong again,

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and again and again Nathalie.

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<v ->They married in 65.</v>

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<v ->They got married at 65?</v>

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<v ->They married in 65.</v>

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That's like 55, 55 years ago.

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Are there any famous Australian love stories

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that you haven't seen in here that you think of?

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Well you were thinking Michelle Williams and Heath Ledger,

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but Michelle Williams is American.

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They have to both be Australian to make the cut.

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Uh, oh.

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<v ->I think I don't know any.</v>

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<v ->What about Hugh Jackman and his wife?</v>

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<v ->Oh Hugh Jackman and Deborah, Deborah, Deborah?</v>

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<v Nathalie>-Yeah.</v>

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Yes, yes, Deborah.

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<v Carlos>Deborah.</v>