WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:14.000 16th of September 1975, where was I? 2 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:29.000 I had just graduated and set in a workshop because I did a BA and I was one of the newly graduates from UPNG and I was selected to teach 3 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:36.000 at a national high school, so I remember that. But on that day, where was I? I was with my family, 4 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:45.000 because my elder brother had a house on Airvos Avenue, just above the Sir Hubert Murray Stadium, 5 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:51.000 where the main event was going to take place. And we watched it from there, and I recall 6 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:59.000 those amazing emotional memories of that day. And I'm really honored to be here on 7 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:08.000 16th of September here in Australia. So how did I get here? Well, I was an Australian 8 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:19.000 citizen, but then it got taken off me in 1975 and it took from 1975 to June 2002 to get it 9 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:28.000 back. So now I am an Australian citizen and that's how I ended up at ANU and became the 10 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:40.000 first Pacific Collections Librarian for the Pacific Studies at ANU in 2006. 11 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:49.000 So how did I come to know about the Elizabeth Durack Collection at the Menzies Library? 12 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:57.000 Out of the blue in 2015, we got this letter of general inquiry from Perpetua 13 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:05.000 Durak Clancy and Michael, they were the children of Elizabeth Durak. 14 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:16.000 And as soon as I saw it, I knew that collection, because I had that book, Face Value. 15 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:24.000 And when I looked through all of those images, I said, we must have this collection. 16 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:26.000 And this was 2015, 2016. 17 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:27.000 And this was 2015. 18 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:35.000 The Australian dollar was really weak against the U.S., and the university library administrators 19 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:39.000 put a freeze on spending. 20 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:46.000 So we were really caught, but I was desperate to get this collection. 21 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:51.000 And 2016, and by 2017, I was planning to retire. 22 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:57.000 And I wanted to really leave something significant when I left 23 00:02:57.000 --> 00:03:01.000 my professional library career. 24 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:06.000 And lo and behold, they lifted the freeze. 25 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:12.000 And we were asked to spend, this is towards the end of 2016, spend the money. 26 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:17.000 And this was a big ticket item, Elizabeth Durak collection. 27 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:23.000 So obviously, Perpetua and Michael contacted me again by October 2016. 28 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:26.000 And I said to them, we are in luck, I think. 29 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:27.000 We will put in a bid. 30 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:35.000 And fingers crossed and everyone pray that it will get approved and we will get this collection. 31 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:43.000 And this collection was delivered on 29th of January, 2016. 32 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:47.000 And I retired at the end of December 2017. 33 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:57.000 So, yes, my dream of coming to ANU and discovering this amazing collection because that 34 00:03:57.000 --> 00:04:06.000 book, Face Value, had amazing drawings and sketches done by Elizabeth Durak in 35 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:08.000 1968. 36 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:14.000 And, you know, over 400 sketches were done. 37 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:19.000 So how did Elizabeth get selected to go to PNG in 1968? 38 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:26.000 Well, this was a pivotal time, because this was when the questions of self-government and 39 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:30.000 eventual independence were beginning to be discussed. 40 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:35.000 In 1968, I was at a boarding school, up at Sogeri. 41 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:40.000 And so we weren't really politically minded then. 42 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:45.000 We were just attending school and going along and not really worrying about anything. 43 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:50.000 We were Australians we were going to remain there forever, like my mother thought. 44 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:55.000 They were not going to ever leave because everything was working so well. 45 00:04:55.000 --> 00:05:04.000 But Gough Whitlam came in, and of course he was under pressure from the UN to decolonize. 46 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:11.000 And of course, 16th of September, 1975, it all happened. 47 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:19.000 And so I was one of those graduates that were then what we call localization. 48 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:24.000 So we had just graduated from UPNG with our first fresh degrees. 49 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:29.000 and no work experience. So I was sent to high school to teach. 50 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:42.000 Anyway, to cut the long story short, I then, it was amazing the way it happened for me, how I ended up to become a librarian. 51 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:50.000 I was posted to Aiyura National High School is in Kainantu Eastern Highlands Province. 52 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:53.000 And this was in 1976. 53 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:57.000 And I was posted there to teach. 54 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:02.000 I was the only Papua New Guinean on the teaching staff of the school. 55 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:06.000 Everybody was from all over the world. 56 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:12.000 And the paymaster at the Goroka office didn't think there would be Papua New Guineans 57 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:17.000 teaching at this school, so he never sent on my paycheck. 58 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:21.000 So I didn't get paid for six months. 59 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:23.000 So those are the experiences. 60 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:30.000 of a new independent country because everything was all kind of up in the air. 61 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:36.000 There were Papua New Guineans who were selected to understudy their Australian bosses to take 62 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:41.000 over from them when their time came to return to Australia. 63 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:43.000 So I was one of those. 64 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:47.000 And then because I didn't get paid, I resigned. 65 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:51.000 And then I was just kind of unemployed. 66 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:53.000 And I saw this ad in the Post-Courier. 67 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:58.000 newspaper of trainee librarians. 68 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:06.000 And I only applied because it promised a postgraduate scholarship to the UK. 69 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:11.000 So I was very lucky I applied and I got appointed. 70 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:16.000 And the first thing was they told me that, yes, I would go on a British Council scholarship 71 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:19.000 to Aberystwyth to train as a professional librarian. 72 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:22.000 So I was one of the first Papua New Guineans. 73 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:27.000 And Florence Griffin, who you will see come up later, was one of them. 74 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:36.000 So from that time, then I then moved to Nouméa, New Caledonia, as that's the South Pacific Commission. 75 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:38.000 Then it was called Librarian. 76 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:40.000 I spent six years there. 77 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:42.000 And then we came to Canberra. 78 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:52.000 And of course, at the ANU, this collection, sorry, I regard as my parting gift because I really wanted this collection. 79 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:58.000 wanted this collection to be held as a research collection at the ANU. 80 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:06.000 And of course, when the approval was given to acquire this collection, we had to get academics 81 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:13.000 to support this collection. So I got Professor Chris Ballard, Dr. Anne Luca. 82 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:21.000 And they obviously wrote this amazing glowing references on why this collection should be acquired by 83 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:28.000 ANU. And so this is how this collection came about. And for me, 84 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:35.000 because of that book Face Value, and because I was New Guinea Collection Librarian, 85 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:45.000 then I knew some of the images in this. And Alice Wedega, you will see, is one of my 86 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:50.000 heroines, I suppose I could say. I knew her personally 87 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:59.000 because she was one of this amazing Papuan, when I say Papuan, there's Papua and New Guinea then, 88 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:10.000 Papuan women who really just somehow made it into this male-dominated society. 89 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:18.000 And as some of you know, there is Australian Biographical Dictionary entry that Eric Johns has written. 90 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:31.000 And she obviously became the first woman to join the Legislative Assembly, the House of Assembly then, 91 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:36.000 in the 1960s. 92 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:42.000 But before that, because of her education and training in Mission School. 93 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:47.000 So this was, she was LMS, London Mission Society, and then Kwato Mission. 94 00:09:47.000 --> 00:10:00.000 So she developed this amazing way of getting this message out to communities or tribes in our interland communities. 95 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:08.000 Like there were two amazing tribal communities who were enemies in our area. 96 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:16.000 At the time, Alice Wedega was going to be given the responsibility to come and visit them. 97 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:21.000 And some of you probably have heard of F.E. Williams as well. 98 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:25.000 He spent time in the 30s in this area. 99 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:31.000 So the tribal names of these groups are Dorevaidi and Keveri. 100 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.000 And they were really warlike. 101 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:38.000 And Hubert Murray, who was the governor of Papua at the time, 102 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:43.000 to have found it really difficult to convince these people to give up their ways 103 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:46.000 of killing each other and come and join the 104 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:51.000 the ways of the government or the ways of this new life. 105 00:10:51.000 --> 00:11:01.000 And Alice Wedega somehow managed to get into the mentality of these warfare tribes and convince 106 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:04.000 them. 107 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:11.000 And so as you can see on this image of Alice Wedega, the way she's wearing her hair, we call 108 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:15.000 this Papua Ekalesia hairstyle. 109 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:16.000 So traditionally, 110 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:19.000 they would have worn their hair Afro style. 111 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:24.000 But in this, she's wearing it all folded at the back. 112 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:30.000 And my mother's generation, this is the way they were shown how to comb their hair, arrange their hair, 113 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:40.000 to indicate that they were members of this church group, or LMS, Kwato Mission, or Kwato Extension Association, 114 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:44.000 when Alice Wedega was really in the hinterland of our about area. 115 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:53.000 And I chose Alice Wedega because, as I said, she would come to visit these interlearned communities. 116 00:11:53.000 --> 00:12:00.000 And quite often she would end up coming to our village because our villages were built on stilts over the sea on the coast. 117 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:07.000 So their boat would come and pick them up and take them to Milne Bay, the Kwato Mission, where she was based. 118 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:10.000 So that's how I knew her as a child. 119 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:13.000 And even then, I just thought she was just an amazing looking woman. 120 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:23.000 And to see her, when I opened that book by Elizabeth Durak, and see her, 121 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:30.000 it's a wonderful image and brings up so many amazing images to me. 122 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:43.000 But the next slide, this is Alice Wedega at the time. So this is 1915. So in the 50s, Alice Wedega was 123 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:50.000 around that area. And some of these images you will see were the ones that were 124 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:56.000 converted and changed their old ways and became absolute gentlemen. And so some of these 125 00:12:56.000 --> 00:13:03.000 people would have come through our family home and we would have entertained them, but 126 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:11.000 then we didn't know anything about their past. And with this image comes my own very 127 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:19.000 personal story of Alice Wedega's book, Listen My Country. In her book, she writes 128 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:27.000 about a murder that took place of a Wanigela man. Wanigela is my paternal tribal 129 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:36.000 people. And my grandfather was murdered by people like this, you see. And I've always wondered 130 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:41.000 when I saw this, when Kari recruited me to work 131 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:49.000 for the Pacific Manuscripts Bureau three or so years ago. This is the first collection 132 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:57.000 she got me to work on. Henry Dexter was an enlishman and he was one of those who wanted adventure 133 00:13:57.000 --> 00:14:03.000 and all that. So he ended up in Papua New Guinea and was sent up to Automata Plantation 134 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:10.000 to start a copper plantation there. And about is not far from where that plantation was. So it was an 135 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:18.000 an amazing experience to go in and work on that day. And Kari said, this is the collection 136 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:24.000 they will look at and look at if the captions are correct. So that's what I worked on. And as 137 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:30.000 soon as I saw this, I recalled Alice Wedega's book about the murder of my grandfather, 138 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:37.000 and I always wondered whether one of these men had murdered my grandfather. So that's the connection. 139 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:45.000 And so the Pacific Manuscripts Bureau here are holding of these prisoners. And Alice Wedega 140 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:53.000 from the Elizabeth Durak drawing held at the Menzies Library Pacific Manuscript. So that connection 141 00:14:53.000 --> 00:15:07.000 is amazing. And to go on to the next slide, Veitu Apana Hau'ofa. Again, I saw this image 142 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:15.000 and I knew Veitu Hau'ofa. But she was Miss Apana then. 143 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:25.000 And then when I knew her, she was teaching at the Hohola Demonstration School, a suburb of Port Moresby. 144 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:37.000 And we knew her then as Miss Apana, and then now she was Mrs. Hau'ofa. But then, 145 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:44.000 that school teacher image changed very quickly because she then became one 146 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:50.000 of our Papua New Guinea's leading sports personalities. 147 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:57.000 And she's still going strong at close at 80. 148 00:15:57.000 --> 00:16:06.000 And recently in 2002, was became one of the inductees of the sports Hall 149 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:18.000 of Fame in Papua New Guinea. And so Mrs. Hau'ofa and I used to come across at the 150 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:24.000 sports grounds quite a lot because she used to coach a mens softball team. And my village 151 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:30.000 people also had a softball team in Port Moresby and we were great rivals. And we would 152 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:36.000 often meet and his, her team would play against us. So through 153 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:44.000 that connection with playing softball. We knew her really well then. And because of that 154 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:53.000 relationship, we, their children called me uncle. And apparently, her son, Siale 155 00:16:53.000 --> 00:17:00.000 Diro is now the defense attach here at the PNG High Commission. So that connection 156 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:06.000 of family knowing her and her son here and seeing her image in Elizabeth Durak 157 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:14.000 sketches is just amazing. But she, as I said, is still strong and contributing 158 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:23.000 actively to Papua New Guinea sports, mostly in the codes of netball and basketball 159 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:31.000 and softball. But above all, a sports administrator. And I think she's still going strong 160 00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:32.000 in those areas. 161 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:42.000 So the next images of Veitu Apana, this was taken in 1962. 162 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:47.000 And this image from Robert Pulsford Collection. 163 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:54.000 Now, Robert Pulsford Collection also came about, because when Kari came and shared coffee 164 00:17:54.000 --> 00:18:00.000 with me that I was to start as Research Officer at the Pacific Manuscripts Bureau, she 165 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:06.000 said, this Robert Pulsford family contacted me. And because he was born in the 166 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:11.000 Pacific and Papua New Guinea collection. So you must come with me to their home 167 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:19.000 in Ainslie to check through what they want to give to the Bureau. But that morning, it was a 168 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:24.000 Friday I turned up and I said, well up to you, you are the boss. So I joined Kari and we 169 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:33.000 drove to this home in Ainslie. And the focus was to just a collection of pamphlets and books 170 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:36.000 and things they had at the corner of their 171 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:42.000 home. And we checked through all those. And unfortunately, most of them were already 172 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:50.000 held at the Menzies Library. So we said, sorry, we can't take these. But then we were 173 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:57.000 just about to get up and go when the wife said, are you interested in photographs? And we 174 00:18:57.000 --> 00:19:05.000 both said yes. So they both disappeared into the study and came out handfuls of these albums. 175 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:11.000 and as they were placing them on the dining table, one of the images fell out on the floor right way up. 176 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:20.000 I looked down and I couldn't believe my eyes. I said, this is amazing. This is the chief of my village. 177 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:31.000 And Ian, the son said, I don't believe you, Deveni. I said yes. I can name every single one of those people in that photograph. 178 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:35.000 And then they said, oh, we got the 179 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:41.000 rest of the album and they brought it out. And we flipped through. The next page was my 180 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:47.000 brother, who was a medical student, taught by Robert Pulsford at the Papuan Medical College, 181 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:54.000 UPNG, and we turned more pages. And there's a whole group of my village people, 182 00:19:54.000 --> 00:20:02.000 over 40 images taken in 1972. And through those albums is this amazing woman, 183 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:07.000 then, Veitu Apana, now Mrs. Veitu Diro. 184 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:11.000 And again, you will see her hairstyle there. 185 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:17.000 But in the 68 drawing that Elizabeth did, it was Afro style. 186 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:20.000 And that was at the time anyway. 187 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:24.000 Remember, this was the late 60s, 70s. 188 00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:27.000 Yeah, Afro, black is beautiful. 189 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:29.000 And platform shoes, flared jeans. 190 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:31.000 That was the period. 191 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:39.000 when I knew her at the Hohola Demonstration School, and in 1968, that six years later, 192 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:46.000 Elizabeth Durak was up in PNG. So how did Elizabeth Durak get up there? It was the Department 193 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:56.000 of External Territories, and it was Mr. Barnes, who was the Minister for External Territories. 194 00:20:56.000 --> 00:21:02.000 As far as I could understand, it was this reception that 195 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:13.000 They were talking, and then Mr. Barnes said, oh, we want somebody to go up to find out how the PNG women are doing at this time of development. 196 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:16.000 And Elizabeth Durak put her hand up. 197 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:23.000 And of course, she was the right person because the family, pastoral family from Western Australia 198 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:26.000 and knew a lot about indigenous people. 199 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:28.000 And you know her work. 200 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:31.000 One of the controversy was the Barap. 201 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:40.000 Yeah, that she was painting under the pseudonym. 202 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:46.000 Anyway, it got revealed, but it's a wonderful revelation as far as I'm concerned. 203 00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:53.000 But so when I looked at the book Face Value and seen through the eyes in Papua New Guinea, 204 00:21:53.000 --> 00:22:01.000 the another volume that she compiled on a visit to Papua New Guinea and traveled all over Papua New Guinea 205 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:09.000 from Port Moresby to Lae, Wau, Bulolo, Goroka, Kainantu , up to the highlands, the Sepik 206 00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:16.000 went on to the islands, Rabaul, Manus, everywhere, within that short period of time. 207 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:25.000 How did this amazing woman got these women to sit down and draw their face value? 208 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:31.000 I like that title because some of these images at the time still Karid their traditional 209 00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:36.000 traditional tribal tattoos and you will see when you access this collection through 210 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:42.000 the Menzies library at the library website you will see some of them have tribal 211 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:47.000 markings and that what she means she says I look into these faces and I can see 212 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:53.000 their family connections, their stories that trace them back to time 213 00:22:53.000 --> 00:23:00.000 immemorial and I mean to me that's just amazing to some people looking at these images when you 214 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:05.000 access them online you think they're just images but to a Papua New Guinean 215 00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:11.000 and looking at them like making the connection with Alice Wedega and Veitu Apana 216 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:16.000 those connections so because I knew them personally and the connections they 217 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:23.000 bring through my the murder of my grandfather and Veitu now a revered sportswoman 218 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:30.000 in our country it is amazing. And so the next image is Florence Griffin. 219 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:45.000 She's my dear friend. I knew her when I was an undergraduate student. 220 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:53.000 She was an undergraduate student. She was the assistant New Guinea Collection librarian. 221 00:23:53.000 --> 00:24:00.000 And because we got on really well, I often visited her. And we did know that in 1979 we would all 222 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:08.000 both be given British Council scholarships to go to Aberystworth and train to be 223 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:14.000 first Papua New Guinea and professionally qualified librarians. So Florence 224 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:23.000 Griffin, she comes from Daru, Western Australia, TI connection, very strong, and 225 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:30.000 comes from a family of missionaries. And so some of you feel 226 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:38.000 if you do Mr. Google, Florence Inabi, I-N-A-B-I, married name Griffin. 227 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:41.000 It will see what she said. 228 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:50.000 So in 1966, she was one of six women who were enrolled at UPNG. 229 00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:56.000 And if you read those names of the men who were enrolled at the time, Rabbie Namaliu, former 230 00:24:56.000 --> 00:25:03.000 Prime Minister, Charles Lepani, who was the High Commissioner here, and Leo Hannett, all 231 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:08.000 those people played amazing roles, and she was one of them. 232 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:16.000 Anyway, so out of those six who enrolled in 1966, Florence and one other woman completed 233 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:25.000 their degrees. And so when the chance came for us to meet up and go to, Aberystworth in 234 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:32.000 in 1979, I said to her, you know, I mean, I didn't know that you were famous in Elizabeth 235 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:41.000 Durak's book. You are there. And then we looked at the picture, and I said, yes, it was 68. That's 236 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:47.000 right. It was Afro. And she said, yes, that's how I attracted my husband, Bill Griffin. 237 00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:55.000 It was really funny. Anyway, so we were both very lucky. 238 00:25:55.000 --> 00:26:02.000 We became close friends and the last correspondence I had with her was in October 2010. 239 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:14.000 She left UPNG Library because of problems with the library's been supported because she struggled 240 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:20.000 to get the acquisitions budget to be passed to buy more books and subscribe to journals 241 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:24.000 and things like that she got frustrated and left and ended up, 242 00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:30.000 her last days were spent at the National Library of Papua New Guinea in Port 243 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:36.000 Morseby as reference or Reader Services Librarian. That's where we, my family and I met her 244 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:46.000 at the counter at the National Library of Australia. And to Florence Griffin, she was an amazing 245 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:55.000 woman in that she said when she was asked by a journalist in 19, was it 67, 246 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:57.000 I think she was second year then. 247 00:26:57.000 --> 00:27:00.000 And so are you going to go back to your home? 248 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:05.000 She said, no, I will never go back to my home in Daru 249 00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:13.000 because a lot of people in my village think me leaving my mum and not staying in home to help her 250 00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:19.000 coming to have this university education was not the right in their eyes, 251 00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:21.000 very traditional views and attitudes. 252 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:24.000 So she came from that background, 253 00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:31.000 you know, she was one of those who said, well, I'm going to go and become a graduate 254 00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:38.000 and become a librarian. And then she became the first university librarian at UPNG, 255 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:43.000 Michael Somare Library, now it's called, and I became the first university librarian at the 256 00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:51.000 Papua New Guinea University of Technology in Lae. And Kari and I were there recently, 257 00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:54.000 look at another national 258 00:27:54.000 --> 00:28:01.000 significant collection of traditional architectural styles at the architecture 259 00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:12.000 department in Lae. And so with those connections with Dame Alice Wedega, Veitu 260 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:24.000 Apana and Florence Griffin and my personal connections and friendships with them, 261 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:30.000 I suppose I've been very lucky to have made it to Canberra and to find my 262 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:38.000 people in the albums of the Pulsford in a home in Ainslie I mean really this is 263 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:42.000 really true I often wondered when I came here I wonder if there would be 264 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:48.000 anything from my home that will be held by one of these Australians who spent time in 265 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:54.000 Papua New Guinea and amazing how the connection was made when Kari 266 00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:58.000 recruited me to become research officer at the Pacific Manuscripts Bureau. 267 00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:08.000 Yeah, so I'm happy and it's just been an amazing experience to discover Elizabeth Durak of 400's 268 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:16.000 images of this amazing PNG women and of course Robert Pulsford collection and the Henry 269 00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:19.000 Dexter collection from the Bureau. Thank you.