WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.570 It's really strange to see myself portrayed like that, 2 00:00:03.570 --> 00:00:06.067 because when you have those private moments 3 00:00:06.067 --> 00:00:09.173 it's only you having that private moment to yourself. 4 00:00:09.173 --> 00:00:11.670 And even when I was sitting for Renata, 5 00:00:11.670 --> 00:00:14.160 we did it quite briefly, you know, the sitting 6 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:15.330 and, 7 00:00:15.330 --> 00:00:16.880 I didn't realise that I, 8 00:00:18.990 --> 00:00:21.240 I was so in that moment sitting for Renata 9 00:00:21.240 --> 00:00:25.110 and what this is, in her description, is so right. 10 00:00:25.110 --> 00:00:28.230 Like there's a type of stasis that you, 11 00:00:28.230 --> 00:00:30.324 that I have to come back to, 12 00:00:30.324 --> 00:00:33.330 to keep getting renewed enthusiasm 13 00:00:33.330 --> 00:00:37.110 to do the work round domestic abuse and coercive control. 14 00:00:37.110 --> 00:00:39.840 And there's something about sitting in the bedroom 15 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:42.720 where a lot of my work is situated really, 16 00:00:42.720 --> 00:00:44.701 like in other people's bedrooms, 17 00:00:44.701 --> 00:00:48.273 are both potent in actuality and figuratively. 18 00:00:49.440 --> 00:00:51.360 And also coming back to the room 19 00:00:51.360 --> 00:00:53.730 and the importance of the environment. 20 00:00:53.730 --> 00:00:54.780 I was thinking, well, 21 00:00:55.830 --> 00:00:58.327 subject planning for you I'll take then you. 22 00:01:00.136 --> 00:01:01.563 For many women, 23 00:01:02.789 --> 00:01:03.622 the room, 24 00:01:03.622 --> 00:01:04.455 I mean we take it for granted, 25 00:01:04.455 --> 00:01:06.150 but bedroom is the place of, 26 00:01:06.150 --> 00:01:07.560 it's our sanctuary, 27 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:09.330 where we come for inspires. 28 00:01:09.330 --> 00:01:10.260 But for many women 29 00:01:10.260 --> 00:01:12.907 that is the most dangerous place of all. 30 00:01:13.958 --> 00:01:16.791 (people chatting)